[vasco]

I'm still waitting to try RH or SUSE on Power. But for my experience on the intel platform RedHat looks much more like UNIX than SUSE. As we don't do on-line updates up2date vs yum is not an issue.

I've been using (on intel) RedHat since 7.something and it will be nice to have the same "interface" on power.

Anyway, the 1st one to port smitty to it's system will be the winner!!! :-)
Or at least the LVM user interface, lsvg is much better than vgdisplay.

[kbr]

CHAMELEON RULEZ!

SuSE is off course the best! even if I never installed it on a LPAR because everytime they all want to keep this shitty AIX but I used a lot SuSE (Open & SLES) and since I met this lil'chameleon I never wanted to use anymore RedHat...

YAST is very usefull when you need some graphical help and can be call in a shell, so you don't need tu run the 5th level...

[kbr]

I installed a few days ago an OpenSuSE 10.3 ppc on a lpar powered by a p595... It'w working fine... :-)

[Administrator]

Originally Posted by kbr

SuSE is off course the best! even if I never installed it on a LPAR because everytime they all want to keep this shitty AIX...

AIX is far more powerful than Linux. I don't understand your statement. Given a choice, I'd never consider running Linux over AIX on a Power server. It wouldn't make sense.

[vasco]

Originally Posted by Administrator

AIX is far more powerful than Linux. I don't understand your statement. Given a choice, I'd never consider running Linux over AIX on a Power server. It wouldn't make sense.

When you say that one Unix is more powerful than other one you are thinking about what ?

The AIX LVM is much better than the (Veritas look-a-like) linux LVM, however the ODM is a menace for AIX as it is the hot plug interface for linux. But what about the filesystem ? Is jfs2 better than xfs or ReiserFS ? I don't know.

Of course that AIX must be better integrated with the power than linux, but that doesn't make AIX more _powerfull_ than linux.

Since about Red Hat 7.3 that I noticed that most linux distros were becaming huge, if not in megabytes at least in the number of packages that they install. I loved a small distro called Trustix that was perfect for a system where you need to know exactly what's running. Now a days I don't know what half the processes running in an Ubuntu or Fedora installation are doing. Aix is better in that point.

BUT, the point is _power_ how do you measure the power of the Unix.

[kbr]

Linux kernel is simply the future, it's free and you can modify as you want...
It's certainely the main reason why you can find it on many types of machines such as firewalls, storage devices, phones, mp3 players, paiement terminals, etc.

For me that's the real power!

And I'm sorry about Aix but there are too many old-fashioned things in it...

[vasco]

Originally Posted by kbr

For me that's the real power!

I don't think so. The real power is to do more work with less hw resources.

Originally Posted by kbr

And I'm sorry about Aix but there are too many old-fashioned things in it...

Such as ?

[kbr]

such as using ksh by default... such as smitty (which is a little better than sam on hpux but...), such as the package administration, . . .

[vasco]

Originally Posted by kbr

such as using ksh by default... such as smitty (which is a little better than sam on hpux but...), such as the package administration, . . .

The default can be changed. But why ? I do the same in ksh and in bash, just different keystrokes.

I've been using UNIX for 20 years, my opinion is that smitty is the best sysmanagment tool I ever found.
I'm really afraid of SAM and the tool that UNISYS used on his SVR2 (sa) was a nightmare, Yast2 is not much better.
The GUIs that you have now on gnome and kde are ok, but you don't have all you need in the same place.
I do all my job from ssh sessions, but the aix web tool (wsm) is very, very good. You can manage an AIX or have access to the HMC from the same place... And no one _likes_ do HMC operations from the command line.

What's wrong with RPMs ? AIX support rpms. It's still not the base system but even smitty process rpms in the same way it does with lpps.
HP's depots are one of the worst things I had to work with. Solaris pkgs are ok. I have no experience with .deb on linux so I can't comment on that.
Tools such as yum are not usefull for me because my machines don't have internet access, but I know that AIX have something called NUMA that does the same.

I guess that you are mistaken by the fact that AIX 5.3 don't _look_ much different from AIX 4.3.3 or even AIX 3.1.5. The fact is that AIX 3.1.5 (for the RS/6000) was very advanced for it's time. But the I agree that linx catched up. HP-UX did NOT, not sure about Solaris 10.

I'm still waiting for a chance to test RedHat vs AIX on the same machine doing the same job (say, an Oracle or Sybase instalation).
I wont be surprised if linux wins in pure speed tests as the linux kernel looks to be lighter.

[kbr]

simply the completion is quite poor on ksh... in ksh you need to press [esc] twice or [esc + * ] man quite boring it removes the interrest of completion and gain of speed... in bash or zsh you can also use the up arrow for history, it's more logical for me instead of [ctrl + k] or #set -o vi ...

personnaly I prefere yast than smitty, you have shortcuts on any options and it's quite a more logical presentation.

Well there are some ameliorations in Aix 6 like a coloured topas... it was time to add colour!! :-D

And you dont need that all your machines access internet... you can make a lan repo also...

well it's a question of taste maybe, but I think Aix need a big in deep remodling...